About gall stones

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• 1 Bessie Suellen // Aug 9, 2007 at 11:51 pm

  ACtually I did not say that so please do not quote that under my post!

• 2 Bernie Magaly // Aug 10, 2007 at 10:30 am

  A friend of mine recently had very painful kidney stones from taking too much
  CALCIUM. That’s something to watch out for. I don’t know if a person could
  really take too much magnesium because they’d end up in the bathroom and that
  would be their clue to cut back a little.
  Amber
  Has anyone had kidney
  stones after starting high supplements on magnesium?
  Gabe
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• 3 Bernie Magaly // Aug 10, 2007 at 2:26 pm

  Yes, you are exactly right. I’ve read that we need either equal amounts of
  cal/mag or double mag to cal. Most multis have this ratio wrong.
  Amber
  Hi, Amber:
  Yeah, you can take too much magnesium. But it’s up there in the amount.
  I’d have to take 24+ of my pills to get there, which I’m not going to do.
  Yes, calcium supplements can cause kidney stones and it’s because of the
  lack of sufficient magnesium. There’s a ratio for ca/mg. It’s like ca 2 and mg
  1, but now some doctors are saying it should be more like:
  2 mg to ca 1 instead. I.e., higher on the mg. end of things.
  Susie
  .

• 4 Bessie Suellen // Aug 10, 2007 at 7:34 pm

  Too much calcium and not enough magnesium is what causes calcifications
  of stones( kidney/gallbladder) It does not have the mg to bind to so it
  binds to cholesterol and other matter floating around in the body. thus
  stone formation. Malate is a good thing to try. It will thin the bile
  somewhat and get it flowing. Really you need a few good oils in the mix
  to keep the gall bladder working but it is much better than the animal
  fats. That is why olive oil is used for the gallbladder cleanse. You
  don’t need to do the actual cleanse, just incorporate a few tsp-tbls
  into the diet daily. coconut oil, flax oil and olive oils are good
  choices.
  Flax is a good source of omega 3 essential oil. Borage, pumpkin seed,
  evening primrose, hemp and other fish oils like cod liver oil, halibut
  liver oil and salmon oils are all good sources of essential fatty
  acids. I would rotate them so you are getting a good variation.
  If you are deficient your body will use what it needs. After a while
  
  you can them back off a little.
  I do work as a pharmacy tech on a pharmacy and have spent years
  researching herbals.
  G

• 5 Bernie Magaly // Aug 12, 2007 at 9:40 pm

  I got curious after reading some of the below because I thought I remembered
  that this group is for people who are doing everything they can to save their
  gallbladders, not for those wishing to have surgery or those who have had
  surgery. So I went to the home page to check again. There must be groups for
  people to join who have had surgery or are contemplating it that might be a
  better source of information for people concerned with surgery. This is what
  the first part of our home page says:
  Amber
  Description
  Liver cleanse - Gallbladder cleanse - Liver flush - NO surgery, Gallstones
  cleanse instead of surgery.’ Support e-group! Cleanse Liver and the Gall
  bladder, flush gallstones! We are people sharing information on cleansing gall
  stones from the Liver and the Gallbladder.
  up your mind and trying to get the people here to agree with you, to m
  ake yourself feel better about your decision. The people here want to
  
  get better, but not by losing body parts.<<<
  I think people come here because they want advice, they have questions and
  they don’t know who else to turn to. You would think a gallbladder group
  would be where to go to get questions answered, not to be attacked. The
  group is for gallstones, it is not called “only post here if you are
  against
  gallbladder removal”.
  .

• 6 Bernie Magaly // Aug 13, 2007 at 1:36 am

  My thought was that someone bent on having surgery might be better served to
  find a group dedicated to people who have had surgery or are contemplating
  surgery. She might be able to get better answers from various people who have
  already gone through it. I haven’t checked, but surely there must be such a
  group.
  Amber
  Still, people come here for advice because they don’t know where else to
  turn. I stay on, even though I’ve had surgery, because I still like getting
  information on doing things naturally. .
  .

• 7 Bernie Magaly // Aug 13, 2007 at 5:33 am

  I’m sorry if my previous response came through as harsh. I just have learned
  how important an organ the GB is and that people need to do what they can to
  save it, if possible. I know there are situations where that simply is not
  possible. I got frustrated because she was just determined to have the surgery
  and didn’t appear to take to heart any advice that so many people offered. I am
  extremely involved in helping people to live a healthier life without drugs,
  surgery, etc. So I simply gave up and said go ahead, you’ll be sorry later.
  I’ve known a few people personally who had the surgery and they do regret it.
  And there’s no do-overs, no going back. So I felt that anyone so bent on
  surgery really should be seeking information from a group of people who have
  gone through it, not a group of people doing all in our power to avoid surgery.
  As I said, I have not looked for such a group, but surely there must be one.
  But I do apologize for losing my cool. I’m not normally like that.
  Amber
  I had a hard time finding gallbladders groups when I looked BUT I do like
  
  the way you worded this. Not that I’m the editor here or anything. It
  was much nicer though.
  .

• 8 Bernie Magaly // Aug 13, 2007 at 9:30 am

  I have read that this is possible. I can’t imagine how upset a person would be
  after having surgery only to end up with the same problems and pain. That would
  be just terrible.
  Amber
  I remember after I first joined this group years ago, there was a lady from
  the U.K. who had her GB removed. Several months afterward she started again
  having GB attacks because she had liver stones. I felt sorry for her because
  she was still going through the same pain.
  Susie
  .

• 9 Gilda Delana // Aug 13, 2007 at 2:13 pm

  Can you please remove me from this list! This is my third or fourth request!

• 10 Bernie Magaly // Aug 13, 2007 at 5:23 pm

  Normally you have to go to the website, click on Edit Membership and look toward
  the bottom and click on Leave Group.
  Amber
  Can you please remove me from this list! This is my third or fourth request!
  .

• 11 Bernie Magaly // Aug 13, 2007 at 9:20 pm

  Oh my goodness. Let’s just hope she dropped out and that nothing happened to
  her.
  Amber
  Yes, I know. At first she didn’t know what was happening to her. And you
  know what, I have never seen her on here again. Either she just quit the
  group or something happened to her.
  Susie

• 12 Bessie Suellen // Aug 14, 2007 at 2:28 am

  Most people do only the docs say it is not possible so then the person
  suffers in silence because they can’t find the answer.
  G

• 13 Bernie Magaly // Aug 14, 2007 at 5:13 am

  This is so frustrating for me. I know some people think doctors are god and
  follow everything they say with no questions. I feel that it’s our body and we
  should do our own research and make up our minds what we want done with our
  bodies.
  Amber
  Most people do only the docs say it is not possible so then the person
  suffers in silence because they can’t find the answer.
  G
  .

• 14 Bernie Magaly // Aug 14, 2007 at 9:10 am

  I can only imagine that progressing to a jaundiced condition was very
  frightening. Witchcraft! Holy cow. I hope you have found another doctor by
  now. Yes, eating small amounts but frequently is probably better for people. I
  know it helped me lose 55 pounds.
  Amber
  so my jaundice went away. … That
  doctor accused me of being into witchcraft because of the cleanses.
  Now I can’t enjoy food like I used to.
  I can’t eat much at one time, so I eat little amounts throughout the day,
  which is probably healthier.
  Susie
  .

• 15 Bernie Magaly // Aug 14, 2007 at 5:03 pm

  Doctors are ranked the third leading cause of death in the US. We are very
  fortunate in our M.D. as we live in a very small rural town. According to the
  nurses, we have the best doctor in town. That’s a pretty good recommendation.
  His first inclination is to send us to a health food store or WalMart for
  something rather than to just whip out the Rx pad. His son just graduated first
  in his class and is now a doctor, too. When his father, our doctor, retires, we
  may try the son. My husband has to go to a Dr. periodically for his diabetes.
  I basically only go when the bone is sticking through my skin, ha, ha.
  Amber
  However,
  there are decent doctors out there and there will be more on the way because
  many are starting to realize the error of the ways they’ve been taught and the
  fact that all those overpriced things they call medicine are killing people
  and don’t really offer any help to anyone if they don’t kill you first.
  Susie
  
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