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Question - people who had surgery

August 8th, 2007 · 12 Comments

I’m going to voluntarily have my gall bladder removed. I just want to
hear about people’s experiences who have had their gall bladder removed.
Yes, yes, everyone doesn’t think it needs to be removed. I had a gall
bladder attack in July ‘06. Since then I have had out of control
triglycerides. I am eating a low-fat, low-carb diet….have taken
cholesterol meds…nothing seems to make a dent. I have even lost 31
lbs since then and my triglycerides are still above 1100 and now my HDL
is less than 19 - at the time of my gall bladder attack, my
triglycerides were 1585 with an HDL of 43….
I’d rather lose my gall bladder and hope it positively affects my
triglycerides than die of a heart attack.
Gabe

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12 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Bernie Magaly // Aug 8, 2007 at 7:13 am

    Holy toledo! I can’t believe this! The GB serves an important function and you
    should do everything in your power to keep it. To “voluntarily” have it removed
    is unthinkable. You need some good fats in your diet. Read “Low-Fat Lies,
    High-Fat Frauds” by Kevin Vigilante, MD., MPH, and Mary Flynn, PhD. Cholesterol
    meds are a scam to get more people to buy expensive drugs. A total cholesterol
    of 300 used to be considered normal until the pharmaceutical companies figured
    they could make a lot more money if they would lower the normal figure.
    Exercise to get your HDL up. Take antifungals (either Diflucan or Nystatin Rx
    from Dr.) or oil of wild oregano, apple cider vinegar, garlic, etc. Take A-F
    Betafood from Standard Process Labs for your GB. You say you’d rather lose your
    GB and hope …what if that doesn’t do it? Then you are worse off. Do your
    research before jumping into a surgery that you can never undo.
    Amber
    I’m going to voluntarily have my gall bladder removed. I just want to
    hear about people’s experiences who have had their gall bladder removed.

    Yes, yes, everyone doesn’t think it needs to be removed. I had a gall
    bladder attack in July ‘06. Since then I have had out of control
    triglycerides. I am eating a low-fat, low-carb diet….have taken
    cholesterol meds…nothing seems to make a dent. I have even lost 31
    lbs since then and my triglycerides are still above 1100 and now my HDL
    is less than 19 - at the time of my gall bladder attack, my
    triglycerides were 1585 with an HDL of 43….
    I’d rather lose my gall bladder and hope it positively affects my
    triglycerides than die of a heart attack.
    Gabe
    .

  • 2 Bessie Suellen // Aug 8, 2007 at 12:21 pm

    Well Gabriel,
    I have had the surgery and I don’t condone running out and having the
    surgery. The thing to do is clean the liver and gallbladder and not
    use the drugs and surgery. I had the surgery months before I found this
    list. About 4 months before this list and curezone was created. I have
    been tutored by the originator of this list Dusan, himself. I have
    been gallbladder free now for almost 10 years and regret every day. The
    problems never have gone away. I have them compounded by chronic
    diarrhea. I still have the gall bladder pain from the front below the
    ribs to the back shoulder blades every few months when the liver started
    to congest. I still have to do liver cleanses on a rigid routine to let
    the liver clean out. I do not feel that removal has been of any
    benefit. Stones and sludge still form in the liver and not just in the
    gallbladder like the doctors like to believe. I am under the
    impression that pancreatitis is just another name for a stone stuck in

    the bile duct blocking the pancreatic enzymes from flowing. So, yes,
    stones are likely involved even though the ultrasound or ct scan does
    not pick them up as they are soft cholesterol stones and not calcified.
    If you concentrated on trying to remove the toxins from your body that
    is creating the imbalance instead of trying to put more poisons like
    pharmaceutical drugs into your body you would be a much healthier
    person. Drugs in any shape or form is poison to the body and may in
    fact relieve a symptom but it is stressing other bodily functions
    somewhere else. Start to research health in the form of toxin removal
    and you will find much more long term health benefits.
    Omega -3 fish oils are not a prescription. They are off the shelf at
    most herbal sections of grocery stores and healthfood stores. They are
    a food supplement and not a pharmaceutical. I whole hearted agree that
    almost all people should take this type of supplement as well as other
    good oils like flax, coconut and olive oil. Read Udo’s ‘Books Fats that
    Heal.’ I advocate the use of oils to keep the liver/gallbladder working
    even if it does cause distress so it does not pack up so full it does
    quit working. I have never advocated a fat free diet when there are
    gallbladder/liver problems that is the last thing you should do. I
    still do not know what gallbladder has to do with cholesterol levels as
    they don’t have any bearing on each other.
    Another thing you should try is to alkalize your body. Distress often
    comes with a too acidic body. Often a !/2 lemon a day in a glass of
    water has done wonders in relieving liver problems. this is a very
    alkalizing substance as well as apple cider vinegar and blackstrap molasses.
    Yes look at magnesium. Like the rest said it is one meneral that most
    people are difficient in. My last blood tests came back normal but
    magnesium took care of the leg cramps that started a feew month ago as
    well as the heart palpitations. I was startiing to get my eye twitch
    back and it also took care of that. I used a liquid magnesium for fast
    effectiveness. Also try to look for malic acid as it will break up any
    stones or sludge that is startiing to form.
    Check out the Master Cleanse by Stanley Burroughs big benefits there.
    G
    P.S. I’m sorry for the rant but I was passed over for a job promotion
    today, So I am a little bit off today.

  • 3 Bernie Magaly // Aug 8, 2007 at 3:06 pm

    This is a note I just received about GB surgery:
    “You know, I have only come across ONE PERSON who felt having her gall bladder
    removed resulted in a POSITIVE outcome. ONLY ONE!!! Out of probably a hundred
    or more! Those are pretty bad odds, I think!”
    I provided GB information to two people who decided to go ahead anyway and have
    theirs removed. They both regret it now. But now it’s too late.
    Amber
    .
    I wanted to hear from people who had the surgery, how it was, etc.
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  • 4 Bernie Magaly // Aug 8, 2007 at 7:03 pm

    That was an absolutely excellent post! I hope she pays attention to it. I
    just copied a few of the comments so as not to clutter the list.
    Amber
    Well Gabriel,
    I have had the surgery and I don’t condone running out and having the surgery.
    If you concentrated on trying to remove the toxins from your body …
    Omega -3 fish oils are not a prescription. … people should take this type
    of supplement as well as other good oils like flax, coconut and olive oil…. I
    still do not know what gallbladder has to do with cholesterol levels as they
    don’t have any bearing on each other. …Another thing you should try is to
    alkalize your body.
    Yes look at magnesium.
    G
    .

  • 5 Bernie Magaly // Aug 8, 2007 at 11:00 pm

    Hey, if that’s the way you feel about it, go ahead and have the surgery and then
    you can come back to us later and tell us how sorry you are. Three people. Wow!
    Amber
    I’m also sorry to hear you had problems after your gall bladder
    removal. I will again remind you I personally know 3 people related
    to me who had no issues after removing their gall bladder. I did
    talk with my mother this evening and yes, it took her about 2-3 years
    before she could eat anything she wanted but now she is fine.
    And yes there is a prescription form of Omega-3’s. Omacor.
    Gabe
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  • 6 Bernie Magaly // Aug 9, 2007 at 2:56 am

    I’m with you 100%. I just told her to go ahead and do it and should could come
    back later and tell us how sorry she is. Doesn’t sound like she’s listening to
    any of the reasons to work to keep her GB. Her mind seems to be made up.
    Amber
    I am wondering why you are even posting here. Sounds like you have made
    up your mind and trying to get the people here to agree with you, to m
    ake yourself feel better about your decision. The people here want to
    get better, but not by losing body parts.
    G
    .

  • 7 Leticia Powers // Aug 9, 2007 at 5:59 am

    Gabe,
    Please consider seeing an Alternative or Naturopathic Dr. There may be other
    things going on that you can try to resolve.
    All the best.
    Gabriel <vespermg@…
    I’m going to voluntarily have my gall bladder removed. I just want to
    hear about people’s experiences who have had their gall bladder removed.
    Yes, yes, everyone doesn’t think it needs to be removed. ….
    I’d rather lose my gall bladder and hope it positively affects my
    triglycerides than die of a heart attack.
    Gabe

  • 8 Bernie Magaly // Aug 10, 2007 at 2:36 am

    I haven’t read the entire link yet but it certainly starts out good. I’m glad
    you got the information in time. My only GB attack was March 12, 2006. I’ve
    read that for lots of people, they never have another attack. I certainly hope
    that’s true.
    Amber
    But a day before my operation I called the hospital and my doctor that I was
    cancelling my gall bladder operation, and would like to live long with it. This
    decision was based on Jerry Ryan’s account:
    I’m so thankful to God, and to him for his advises. I’ve never been attacked
    by gallstone for more than a year already.
    Jess
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  • 9 Bernie Magaly // Aug 11, 2007 at 6:13 am

    Any good health food store.
    Amber
    where would I find the granules?
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  • 10 Bernie Magaly // Aug 14, 2007 at 1:06 pm

    Dave, I’m curious - you say you see this every day. What part of the medical
    field do you belong to? I’m a Reiki Master and deal with health issues
    frequently and have been able to help quite a few people. It’s extremely
    rewarding, emotionally (I do not charge for my services). Are you a doctor,
    naturopath, medical technician? I certainly agree with what you are saying.
    Amber
    I have every right to point out the lunacy of interfering with the “normal”
    functioning of the human body, and the potential consequences thereof. Why?
    Because I get to see it everyday and try to help the people who have, through
    the process of regaining an amount of health and comfort with the now
    compromised body. I would rather have a vehement argument with you about the
    potential long term effects than have you wheeled into my place with a
    basketball sized tumor, a months to live diagnosis, a ten year old daughter, and
    a petrified husband.
    -Dave

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  • 11 Bernie Magaly // Aug 16, 2007 at 12:26 pm

    Thank you.
    Amber
    Hi Amber,
    I have been in natural heath for over 30 years, teach herbology and applied
    kinesiology at the college level. I have been all over the world in search of
    options dealing with cancer. Thrust like so many of us by personal (and
    professional) circumstances.
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  • 12 Neva Marjory // Aug 19, 2007 at 4:22 am

    Possibly, you need to increase your intake of good fats. It is my
    understanding that a lowfat diet increases your chances of gallstones.
    The reason is that the gallbladder needs to eliminate after every
    meal. Fats will cause this eliminationto happen. On a low-fat diet,
    cholesterol sits in the gallbladder and forms stones. You actually
    cleanse your gallbladder regularly by consuming fats. Try extra-virgin
    olive oil, pumpkin seed oil, coconut oil (but only the best quality
    products).

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