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October 31st, 2006 · 3 Comments

The third item — Why We Need Germs — is long and excellent.
I’ve chopped out the middle of it for brevity, but I recommend
you look up the whole thing and read it. –AEL<<<
Ann and everyone….
Thanks for all the wonderful info and discussion on this topic. Only a quick
question - aren’t parasites and bacteria completely different things?
My understanding, though admittedly very limited, is that there are both good
and bad bacteria; the bad generally taking hold in an immune-compromised
situation (as in where the liver is not functioning optimally), but the good
kind
being required to maintain healthy bodily equilibrium - yeasts behaving
similarly.
On the other hand, parasites (unless of a variety that coexists beneficially
with a host organism), I always thought, were generally pretty nasty things,
living off a host at the host’s expense, regardless of one’s state of health

and being opportunistically passed, willy nilly, from one person to another.
Would someone very kindly clarify on this….my question being, “Aren’t these
two completely separate varieties of organisms?”
Peace, Marion

Tags: diseases

3 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Trenton Odom // Nov 1, 2006 at 5:37 am

    Marion, you bring up a good point. I’ve found it helpful to classify organisms
    based on what they bring to the body. Some only take, that would be a
    parasite, some live in harmony or synergy, neither taking anything nor giving
    anything, and then there are a third type that is actually beneficial to the
    host
    organism, a win-win situation. As others have said, we couldn’t live without
    certain beneficial bugs inside us as people who take a lot of anti-biotics find
    out.
    A PARASITE, by medical dictionary definition, is any plant or animal that lives
    upon or within the host at whose expense it obtains some benefit without
    compensation.
    In general, medical people consider viruses, bacteria and fungi as “infectious
    agents” not “parasites” although they could certainly be considered as
    parasitic since we support them while many of them seriously take from us.
    In general and to help ease communication, the term parasite most often

    refers to two main groups of invaders. First, the PROTOZOA (single-celled
    organisms) which includes amoebas, flagellates like giardia and leishmania,
    blood parasites like the malarial organisms, coccidia like cryptosporidium and
    toxoplasma and others. It also refers to WORMS (multi-celled organisms)
    such as tapeworms, roundworms, pinworms and flukes.
    Will in Minnesota

  • 2 andrea_190 // Nov 1, 2006 at 9:16 am

    Dear Will and Vince,

    “infectious
    agents” not “parasites” although they could certainly be considered as
    parasitic since we support them while many of them seriously take from us.<<<
    Many thanks for your swift, insightful replies. I see the wisdom in your
    approaches to this whole topic and am listening and lurking intently, while
    being
    very grateful for the clarification on this topic from both you amazing,
    altruistic wizards! It can be a little confusing to lay people, like myself,
    when
    these terms ’seem’ to be used interchangeably on occasion.
    Thank you, also, to Ann for emphasizing what I missed in the writing, so
    thoughtfully sent. I admit I initially scanned it for later edification, because
    I

    got caught in my mental melee about parasites and bacteria! Strange how the
    mind manages to filter out all else at times like that. ;)))
    Just one other minor thing and don’t mean to address this to anyone in
    particular…I’ve been getting the group emails in daily digest format and am
    finding it pretty challenging to read through and catch all the important points
    everyone writes in about. So, may I make a humble request to the group? Would
    everyone kindly cut and paste the relevant bits of emails to which they are
    responding into a new email? There is such a lot of ‘bandwidth’ being taken up
    by
    whole repeats of old emails that are just being sent back with only one or
    two-line replies.
    Thanks so much for your understanding, in advance!
    Marion

  • 3 Trenton Odom // Nov 1, 2006 at 9:24 pm

    Alan, I had a hard time reading your last message, would you mind resending
    it with all the previous stuff edited out?
    Will

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