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New, pregnant, don’t want unnecessary surgery…

May 1st, 2006 · 1 Comment

Hello,
I am new to this group. I had my first gallstone attack about 2 1/2
weeks ago. I didn’t know what it was — had chest tightness/pain,
pain between my shoulders, nausea and vomiting. I went to the ER
and spent a horrible time there. I am now about 34/35 weeks
pregnant, so I was about 32 weeks pregnant at the time. The doctor
did a lot of tests — an EKG, a chest cat scan, and a chest x-ray.
Ultimately, he said I was having heartburn and pregnancy related
nausea.
This is my third pregnancy and I KNOW this was not what the
doctor was diagnosing. I was very tired from not having slept all
night, frustrated and still vomiting a lot. I was also upset for
having agreed to so many tests that are best not done during
pregnancy (though later in pregnancy the risks are not as high). As
a precaution, the doctor sent me up to Labor and Delivery to have

the baby checked. A nearby nurse said that she thought I had
gallstones. I mentioned this to the nurse in L&D. They wanted to
do an ultrasound to make sure the baby was ok — so they decided to
go ahead and look at my gallstone too.
My gallbladder apparently has lots of stones and sludge. They gave the
ultrasound report to the ER staff and then they added the gallstone problems to
my “heartburn” diagnosis. They said I would need surgery but it
could wait until after the baby is born. I had a follow-up appt
with my regular family doctor and she said pretty much the same
thing — gave me a referral to a surgeon. I am not one who just
accepts things my doctor tells me and had been doing some research
about gallbladder surgery, as well as some alternatives to dealing
with gallstones. I mentioned the alternatives, but my doctor
brushed them aside. I don’t agree with her and I feel like I would
like to try cleansing and other measures first.
I am surprised by how common gallbladder surgery is. Both my mom
and step-dad have had their gallbladders removed and now seem almost
alarmed that I told them I am looking at other ways of approaching
this instead of surgery. I think they think I am afraid of having
surgery. Well, of course I know there are risks to any surgery and
am reading about the risks in this particular surgery. My mom said
she is a “gallbladder expert,” but I don’t think she read anywhere
about people having bowel problems and higher cholesterol after the
gallbladder is removed.
At leave five people have told me that they just had the surgery and it was so
easy. They raise their eyebrows when I respond that I am going to try other
measures before the surgery. *sigh* I should be used to this sort of thing
because not all of my childbirthing choices line up with mainstream thoughts,
but I do get so tired of how people are so quick to believe/accept
anything a DOCTOR says as the gospel truth.
I have been trying to make dietary changes to avoid further
attacks. I have read/heard about avoding so many different things
(some even conflicting). I think this will be a learning journey
for me and I hope I don’t have to learn the “off limit” stuff the
hard way. For now, I am trying to make sure I don’t eat too much
fat (eating non-fat or low fat protein sources). I am also trying
to watch refined carbs/sugars…which is my big downfall. I am also
limiting soy protein, which is something I tend to rely on as a
source of protein. Apparently, soy protein leads to an increase in
estrogen — and between being pregnant and being me (an estrogen
dominant person), I don’t need any more estrogen. I have read about
various foods that are supposed to help, such as radishes, beets,
lemon juice, and apple juice.
I have to say that I am a little depressed to think about living a highly
restrictive diet for the rest of my life. In some ways, it does seem just
having the gallbladder removed would be easier, but I sort look at this as a
wake up call to make some changes in my life. I think God gave me
this gallbladder for a reason — maybe even if that reason is a way
to keep my diet in check. I am taking a few supplements to help:
milk thistle/dandelion combo and lechitin. Since I am pregnant, I
am not doing too many herbal remedies because it is hard to know
what is safe and what is not. I am also nursing (two year old) and
will nurse my newborn too — so it may be quite some time before I
can do too much in the way of herbal treatments.
I would like to do some cleansing. My midwife is sort of leaving
this up to me. Another midwife that works with her says it will be
fine to do now. She did cleansing during pregnancies and had quite
good results. The main concern is that the cleansing *could* send
me into labor. I am thinking about waiting another couple of weeks
so it won’t matter if the cleansing starts labor for some reason.
My midwives don’t feel the amount of oil is anywhere near what you
would use if you were taking castor oil to try to start up labor. I
kind of want to do it BEFORE the baby is born because I feel it will
be easier than trying to do it AND take care of a newborn. I am
unsure though and any feedback about this is welcome. My chiro is
very supportive of cleansing and thinks most gallbladder surgery is
unnecessary. I guess I need to keep searching for a family doctor
who is more open to alternative choices…or who at least doesn’t
want to send me to a surgeon without trying other remedies first.
Rondi

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1 response so far ↓

  • 1 Danial Marleen // May 1, 2006 at 4:27 am

    Rondi, it’s so good of you to share your story with us. I admire you
    for nursing your baby through your pregnancy. I did that with my
    oldest daughter, too. It’s not an easy thing to do, and boy does it
    raise eyebrows! You’re one brave woman, and I think you can easily
    handle all the reaction to your decision to avoid gall-bladder
    surgery.
    You have really done your research! I’m very impressed! Do you have
    an herbalist or naturopath that you go to? They would be so helpful
    to guide you concerning what herbs you could take at this time.
    The general consensus here is that a cleanse should not be attempted
    while you are pregnant. But it sounds like you are getting some solid
    advice from your midwife and helpers and I know you’ll hear a lot
    from people here, so I’ll leave that up to you to decide.
    Like you, I think the gall-bladder surgery rates are way too high.
    When we moved to this area I was shocked to hear that some of my

    friends had allowed their gall-bladders to be removed when they were
    between 20 and 25 years of age! They also reported that they were
    having the same kinds of problems that they had before their
    surgeries, so they wished they hadn’t bothered. I just don’t believe
    that we should carelessly dispose of an organ that has obviously been
    serving a function in our bodies and now needs some help.
    If you read some of the previous messages in this group you will be
    doing yourself a favor. There are a lot of posts telling about veggie
    juice concoctions that help our condition, and others talking about
    why you shouldn’t flush while pregnant, and others about ridding the
    body of parasites and such.
    I’m not worried about you. I can tell that you will teach yourself
    what you need to know and emerge with wisdom and insight for those
    around you and a knew knowledge about your own health.
    Luci

    the ultrasound report to the ER staff and then they added the
    gallstone problems to my “heartburn” diagnosis. They said I would
    need surgery but it
    and it was so easy. They raise their eyebrows when I respond that I
    am going to try other measures before the surgery. *sigh* I should
    be used to this sort of thing because not all of my childbirthing
    choices line up with mainstream thoughts,
    highly restrictive diet for the rest of my life. In some ways, it
    does seem just having the gallbladder removed would be easier, but I
    sort look at this as a

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