About gall stones

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• 1 Aisha Bird // Jun 27, 2005 at 9:36 pm

  Diane,
  Yes, there are different types of gallstones. Calcium and/or
  pigmented stones and cholesterol stones. Also they can be a mix of
  these compositions with protien and other stuff. The majority are
  cholesterol stones.
  There are also different forms of bile. Gallstones and soft bile
  balls. The flush will always get out hundreds of bile balls but not
  always gallstones. It can do both but the gallstones can be harder to
  eliminate. In my personal opinion the flush method itself promotes
  the bile to form into soft bile balls and exit. The body is designed
  to do this naturally on it’s own through regular stool action unless
  there is a problem with bile consistency, production and/or flow.
  Dieting is the key to maintain proper functioning bile. Flushing will
  excellerate the action that the body is normally doing already on
  it’s own design.
  
  Diane, don’t be worried about ‘where the bile will go’ without the
  bile reservoir of the gb. The bile will wait in the common duct and
  liver until you eat. Then hormones will activate the Sphincter of
  Oddi (the muscle at the end of the common duct) to open and allow the
  bile from the common duct and liver to enter the gastrointestinal
  area for aiding the digestion of your food. If your Oddi is working
  good you should have no problem with continual drip. If the bile is
  continually dripping into the intestine the small intestine will
  reabsorb the bile to process it back to the liver. Eating several
  small meals instead of gorging on one or two big meals will help the
  process. Eating smaller meals is better for your over all health
  anyway and is something everyone should be doing to avoid digestive
  problems.
  Good luck with your health and cleansing.
  Barry.

• 2 Opal Lurline // Jun 28, 2005 at 3:47 pm

  OK, I was waiting to read all the posts before I aked this question,
  but this sentiment is what brings me to it. I have read the following
  info that forms the question: Liver can produce up to a quart of bile
  a day. Gallbladder is the size of a man’s thumb. Bile is stored in
  gallbladder and used when we eat fat. First question, how much bile
  can the gb hold? I am thinking a few ounces. Does all of the bile go
  through the gb before it hits the small intestine? I also have read
  that the bile is reabsorbed by the body whether before or after
  surgery. But here is my real question. If all of the bile does not go
  through the gb and the body reabsorbs the excess, then what
  difference does it make if we have a gb or not? :O I know I sound
  like a heretic, but as I am now considering seeing a surgeon (haven’t
  actually made an appointment) I want to know this answer. Because if
  we produce up to a quart, and only a few ounces go to the gb, and all
  the rest is reabsorbed, then it SEEMS like it is easier to live
  
  without the gb than I have been willing to admit. Acknowledging of
  course, that there are people injured in surgery, people who still
  have problems after surgery, etc. Dawn
  Sad

• 3 Nell Paul // Jun 28, 2005 at 7:31 pm

  The main function of the gallbladder is to concentrate and to store bile.
  Bile ducts can also do the same thing, but without gallbladder, capacity to
  concentrate and capacity to store bile is severely decreased.
  The gallbladder, which has a capacity of 50 milliliters (average) (about 5
  tablespoons), concentrates the bile 10 fold by removing water and stores it
  until a person eats. At this time, bile is discharged from the gallbladder
  via the cystic duct into the common bile duct and then into the duodenum
  (the first part of the small intestine), where it begins to dissolve the
  fat in ingested food.
  Average does not mean YOU! Because of biodiversity, some people may have
  capacity of 150 ml, and others may have capacity of 25ml.
  Once it is removed, bile ducts will have to overtake gallbladder function,
  what may result in many unnecessary problems like: enlarged bile ducts,
  fatty liver, intrahepatic stones, problems with the “sphincter of odi”,
  chronic diarrhea, IBS, other chronic problems …
  
  Some researchers estimate that 15% of people without gallbladder ends up
  with chronic diarrhea, indigestion and malabsorption of fats.
  The liver’s cells (hepatocytes) excrete bile into canaliculi, which are
  intercellular spaces between the liver cells. These drain into the right
  and left hepatic ducts, after which bile travels via the common hepatic and
  cystic ducts to the gallbladder.
  The liver excretes approximately 500 to 1000 milliliters (50 to 100
  tablespoons) of bile each day.
  Most (95%) of the bile that has entered the intestines is resorbed in the
  last part of the small intestine (known as the terminal ileum), and
  returned to the liver for reuse.
  There are many ways to improve gallbladder function, other then removing a
  gallbladder.
  (healthy diet, liver flush, castor oil packs, shiatsu, reflexotherapy,
  gradual liver cleanse, liver herbs (nettle, burdock, dandelion, milk
  thistles, … )
  Agnes

• 4 Aisha Bird // Jun 29, 2005 at 9:06 am

  Dawn,
  If you go a long time between meals and the gb becomes full of bile
  the rest of the bile waits in the liver and in the ducting. The
  common duct, cystic duct, and liver ducts hold the bile as well as
  the gb until you eat something and the hormones within your body
  opens the muscle at the end of your common duct (sphincter of oddi
  muscle) and allows the bile to go into the gastrointestinal area.
  Whatever bile is not used will reabsorb into the small intestine and
  return to the liver.
  Dawn, if you have gallstone colic you should really study what this
  is all about. Your body is important enough to study about isn’t it?
  Especially when it has pain. There are hundreds of liver sites to
  study online and even a doctor can explain it to you with pictures.
  The reservoir of the gb is a secondary organ that aides in the
  digestion process by making sure the food has enough (or more bile
  
  and concentrated) bile coming to it to help break it down for
  digestion and ingestion. Without the gb there is sufficent amounts of
  bile from the liver and waiting in the common duct to aid in
  digestion in most cases. As far as my post-surgery experience I have
  been one of the 95% lucky enough to have absolutely no problems or
  pain with eating anything at anytime that I chose. I eat smaller
  meals now because it is something everyone should be doing to be
  healthy anyway but I have also eaten large fatty meals with no
  problems. I’m much more diet conscience because of the dieting tips
  in this group but I do have the freedom of choice again. Gallbladder
  or not, I want to be healthy and happy. Everyone in here has that
  same goal I guess.
  In my opinion it is easier to live without the gb if it is beyond the
  tolerance of pain levels and personal happiness. You can live without
  your gb but not with constant pain or even in some cases the freedom
  to not worry about eating foods.
  Of course it is better to have the gb. God gave it to you to help
  digest your food. No organ is without purpose but some are more
  critical than others. The appendix is still a mystery but it must be
  there for a reason. The gb makes digestion easier especially with
  fatty food intake. Keep it if you can but don’t live miserably just
  to do that. Make it healthy to get the pain out. If you can’t do that
  then you will reach another road with options like medication,
  lithotripsy or even surgery.
  Surgery is one thing that is looked at as a ‘failure’ in a
  gallbladder flush group but in some cases it is better for your
  health and happiness to remove it. Especially if it is really in bad
  shape and can not get healthy by dieting and flushing. Some people
  are able to control their gb pain for years on end but that could
  only be a bandaide to true health and happiness. Personal choice is
  always up to your own health and happiness.
  I personally gave the alternative method of flushing 4 months or 8
  flush attempts and still had colic which was getting worse no matter
  how better I was dieting in the process. I wanted to keep my gb too
  but now that I have seen it in my very own hands in the state of pre-
  disease that it was advanced to, I feel that I did the right thing by
  removing it for my own health and happiness. I now have the freedom
  to live ‘outside’ my body again instead of ‘inside’ all the time. I
  was always worrying about the food I was eating. If it would cause
  pain or not, etc. Life isn’t enjoyed in that way in my opinion.
  Freedom to eat is like freedom to breath for me. I like choices and
  freedom and painfree living. Wanna share a pizza? Good luck in your search.
  Barry.

• 5 Opal Lurline // Jul 1, 2005 at 10:50 am

  I am doing 5 of the 7 you recommended. The continued search for the
  health of my gallbladder is consuming most of my time. I am trying to
  not let is also consume my emotions and thoughts, but it is hard when
  you are popping capsules of some kind or another almost every hour of
  the day. Dawn

• 6 Opal Lurline // Jul 1, 2005 at 2:47 pm

  Only if it’s all veggies and no cheese. Maybe in a few weeks one
  way or the other I can add cheese back. Dawn
  Let me tell ya, I hear the song you were singing. Freedom has its
  merits.

• 7 Aisha Bird // Jul 1, 2005 at 8:16 pm

  Dawn,
  I know what you mean about ‘being addicted’ to your pain-avoidance
  and internal organ. I was exactly the same way. I was always
  thinking ‘inwardly’ about my stone and also worried everytime I ate
  anything. I was in prison by the potential pain attacks that came 2
  or 3 times a week no matter what I ate. I was depressed in my work
  and family life and it was effecting every area of my happiness and
  life. My work even started to suffer because of it. I lost 15 lbs and
  looked like I had AIDS as I walked into ER at 3 AM to get yet another
  shot to stop the horrific pain attacks.
  You will reach the point where you will have to decide on your own
  personal health and happiness (physically and mentally). ‘Lesser of
  the two evils”. Make sense?
  Good luck with your attempts at flushing and ridding yourself of
  colic pain. Hopefully you can do that and keep your gb but don’t feel
  
  like a failure if you can’t. Your own happiness and health is more
  important than anyones opinion about what you do.
  Barry.

• 8 Aisha Bird // Jul 2, 2005 at 12:12 am

  All veggies without cheese is not called ‘pizza’. It’s only veggies
  on bread. haha
  Freedom does have it’s merits. Especially when you mean eating food
  which is a basic neccessity for health and happiness.

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