About gall stones

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• 1 Aisha Bird // Jun 1, 2005 at 2:39 am

  John,
  I will say it again in another way that may make sense to you.
  We all need both (alternative health methods and general medicine).
  You say you don’t need general medicine. If you get hit by a car, you
  may need a doctor. If you have a heart attack, you may need a doctor,
  etc. Both fields have their healthy and helpful purposes. Now do you
  see the point? I’m sure we are not in dissagreement or anything on
  this point. It may only be a missunderstanding.
  Your next statement about alternative method doctors believing
  hereditary reasons as one of the many causes of gallstones.
  You call them ‘wacko’? Maybe this is another missunderstanding. The
  cleanse doctors who have created the flush methods you are doing are
  all wacko? I don’t get it. So, all the doctors who are alternative
  health or general medicine are all wacko and you are correct? Where
  did you earn your degree?
  
  You are right about one thing. This group is not to bash or support
  medicine. This is a liver/gallbladder flush group. Liver cleansing is
  important for anyone, with or without the gb.
  Barry.

  without surgery.

• 2 Janet Nielsen // Jun 2, 2005 at 4:45 pm

  you don’t need general medicine.
  Alternative health METHODS, yes. But NO, we don’t need general MEDICINE.
  Emphasis because you keep missing the point. Before you said we all need
  alternative health MEDICINE which was incorrect. No one needs medicine. You
  only think you need medicine and medical doctors because you don’t believe in
  nature and you think drugs are the only solution. But they aren’t a solution at
  all, they’re the cause.
  If I have a broken bone then it would need to be set. I may or may not be able
  to do that myself. I did have 3 broken bones in my foot one time. The doctor
  told me they were going to put my foot in a cast. Didn’t ASK me, TOLD me! That
  shows what jerks they are. When they left I hopped out on one foot, kept
  soaking my foot in cold water and ice, and a few days later went to a friend who
  was a running podiatrist. He said the cast would have been the worst thing for
  my foot, which I already knew. I wrapped my foot every morning, wore a wood
  shoe, and kept soaking my foot in cold water and ice 3 times a day. Four and a
  
  half weeks later I started walking and jogging one lap. The tenth week I was
  running 100 miles a week. If I’d LET them put my foot in a cast my foot would
  not have regained it’s strength for a year!
  That’s a big IF. And why would I then NEED a doctor??? That’s a false
  assumption. Since the life span of a medical doctor is less than 55 years, they
  would do much better coming to me. Why people go to an unhealthy profession to
  try to get well is incredulous, and the profession that is primarily responsible
  for prepetuating, if not causing, heart disease in the first place.
  Read “Left For Dead”, by Dick Quinn. He did everything and every procedure they
  recommended to him and they left him for dead. dddThe book is about the
  alternative methods he then discovered to regain his life.
  reasons as one of the many causes of gallstones. You call them ‘wacko’?
  You misquoted me. This is why I said you first need to make sense. Here is
  what you asked and my answer:
  You asked why MEDICAL doctors are screwed up and I answered. Alternative
  METHODS and medical doctors are NOT the same thing. If you want to have valid
  conclusions, first your premises must be correct.
  People who use and believe in alternative METHODS know that you don’t have to
  choose different parents to flush out a gallstone from your liver or to reduce
  the cholesterol from your arteries.
  I obviously use and believe in alternative METHODS because they work.

• 3 Aisha Bird // Jun 3, 2005 at 1:49 pm

  John,
  Good for you. I believe in both. Good luck to both of us. Be healthy.
  Barry.

  MEDICINE. Emphasis because you keep missing the point. Before you
  said we all need alternative health MEDICINE which was incorrect. No
  one needs medicine. You only think you need medicine and medical
  doctors because you don’t believe in nature and you think drugs are
  the only solution. But they aren’t a solution at all, they’re the
  cause.
  not be able to do that myself. I did have 3 broken bones in my foot
  one time. The doctor told me they were going to put my foot in a
  cast. Didn’t ASK me, TOLD me! That shows what jerks they are. When
  they left I hopped out on one foot, kept soaking my foot in cold
  
  water and ice, and a few days later went to a friend who was a
  running podiatrist. He said the cast would have been the worst thing
  for my foot, which I already knew. I wrapped my foot every morning,
  wore a wood shoe, and kept soaking my foot in cold water and ice 3
  times a day. Four and a half weeks later I started walking and
  jogging one lap. The tenth week I was running 100 miles a week. If
  I’d LET them put my foot in a cast my foot would not have regained
  it’s strength for a year!
  false assumption. Since the life span of a medical doctor is less
  than 55 years, they would do much better coming to me. Why people go
  to an unhealthy profession to try to get well is incredulous, and the
  profession that is primarily responsible for prepetuating, if not
  causing, heart disease in the first place.
  procedure they recommended to him and they left him for dead. dddThe
  book is about the alternative methods he then discovered to regain
  his life.
  hereditary reasons as one of the many causes of gallstones. You call
  them ‘wacko’?
  Alternative METHODS and medical doctors are NOT the same thing. If
  you want to have valid conclusions, first your premises must be
  correct.
  don’t have to choose different parents to flush out a gallstone from
  your liver or to reduce the cholesterol from your arteries.
  work.

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