Howdy folks, I just returned from a two week emergency trip to
support my family in the last days of a dying relative, attend the
funeral, etc. My gall bladder did not realize I was on vacation. Ha!
I had planned a cleanse the weekend I left, so decided to mini the
flush and here is what happened. I halved the amount of ES and mixed
it with apple juice. (I was on the road) Had the oil, juice mixture
an hour late. Only had one ES dose the next morning. 1/2 at that.
After half as many trips to the bathroom, I passed one stone and a
lot of grapefruit looking pouches. You know that hold the juice. Can
anyone explain why this did not work? I am flushing again this
weekend.
I finally decided to test pizza. Haven’t had it or hamburgers in 3
months. After almost 3 weeks of no attacks, I had one. But, it was
very mild. Bad enough to wake me up, but not to take the heavy duty
pain meds. I had a teaspoon of olive oil. Who suggested that? I love
you!!!!!!!!!!!!! In 2 minutes it was over. Less than a week later I
had another mild attack. Had 1 Tablespoon of oil. Over in fifteen
minutes. Did I say I love you? LOL! Why do I only get my attacks in
the middle of the night, many hours after I have had offending
substance? I have never had one in the day.
So, my attacks are getting milder, but I am still having them. Can
someone tell me how many flushes they did before they quit having
attacks, or are any of those people still on here? Dawn
mini flushes, mini attacks, and the oil cure
March 27th, 2005 · 12 Comments
Tags: liver cleanse
12 responses so far ↓
1 Opal Lurline // Mar 30, 2005 at 6:20 am
I ususally do in the morning too. I have noticed that my eliminations
are now more regular and more frequent since I started cleansing. My
attacks have been farther apart and much much more mild. But, if I
eat a very bad greasy food at dinner, I can expect the attack. Dawn
2 Aisha Bird // Mar 31, 2005 at 7:32 am
Dawn,
Have you had an ultrasound to see what is the size and number of
stones you are dealing with inside of your gallbladder?
For me, a few days and up to one week after a flush, I usually have
minimal or no colic. The oil effect in my body keeps me sort
of ‘lubbed’ up. After the oil is out of my system, the colic returns
as usual. The same happens after antispasmodic medication. If I go
into ER and get a shot for pain, it usually takes two days to process
through the blood stream and exit the urine. After the third day,
it’s back to normal colic.
So, knowing your body, the colic, and ‘knowing your stone’ is good
for you so that you can understand how to best attack the problem the
right way.
Good luck,
Barry.
3 Opal Lurline // Mar 31, 2005 at 1:53 pm
Yes, I had one, but they did not tell me how many or what size. I saw
Dawn
several, but I do not know how big or small they were.
4 Aisha Bird // Mar 31, 2005 at 11:19 pm
Is there any way that you can ask your doctor? All ultrasound scans
can tell you exactly what size the stones are that show up on the
picture. It is important to know so that you know exactly what you
are really facing.
Barry
5 Opal Lurline // Apr 2, 2005 at 9:17 am
Well, where we are, a radiologist reads the results of the ultrasound
and sends the report to the Dr. I read the report myself and it said
nothing about how many or what size. My Dr is antagonistic to
cleansing. He thinks I’ll be in for surgery. I hope to prove him
wrong. Dawn
6 Aisha Bird // Apr 3, 2005 at 6:32 am
Is there any way for you to go into a radiologist office in your area
and ask for ultrasound? Some schools also provide that service for a
very cheap price. I think your doctor should at least explain to you
what the scan shows in size and number of stones. Just by looking at
the picture you can get that information. The relation to the size of
the gallbladder is generally the way to measure. Of course, the
ultrasound has it’s own measuring built it that shows on the side of
the scan. Good luck. It’s always good to know exactly what you are
battling against inside your body. That doctors vague attitude would
be enough for me to find another doctor. He doesn’t seem too helpful
in answering the patients questions.
Barry.
7 daniel_1800 // Apr 3, 2005 at 12:14 pm
In a message dated 4/5/02 11:09:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
barry91162@… writes:
My written report didn’t indicate the size of any stones, (just said
“multiple gallstones). I still have the films, though. Is there a way to
tell from looking at it? I mean, other than eyeballing. I guess what I’m
asking is - is there something in the notations on the films themselves that
might indicate something to me? When I look at the picture and see the
white spots, how do I know if they are large stones and not just clumps of
stones? I know you’re not a radiologist, but you’ve probably had the most
experience at looking at these things, so any thoughts you might have in that
direction would be welcome.
thanks,
rachel~
“Live your dreams now. Life is not a dress rehearsal.”
8 Aisha Bird // Apr 3, 2005 at 10:19 pm
Hi Rachel,
Your written report definitely should have included the size and
number of visable stones. From the scanned picture you can tell by
two ways. First way would be if it has a scale on the frames of the
pictures that tells you how big it is, etc. Sometimes you will see
little +’s and X’s where they have measured the stone for size.
If it doesn’t have sizes on scale at the side of the scan picture you
will have to just judge it by the size of your gallbladder vs. the
stone sizes. My gallbladder was measured 12cm by 4cm.
This is the only way I know of on how to get sizes from the pictures
unless you just took the picture in to the radiologist and asked him
about sizes on the picture. His trained eye should be able to tell
you more or less (to the mm) what the size is. A specialist doctor in
gastrology should be able to do that also.
The white stone that shows on ultrasound should look like a half moon
or nearly full moon shape. I posted a link here last month to a site
with several ultrasound pictures of stones. You can compare it to
that site as well. I don’t remember the site because I have lost it
in my files but you can find it by paging back about 4 to 6 weeks ago
I believe. That site also describes the type of stones, etc. It says
that 90% of white ultrasound stones are cholesterol based. Not
calcium like I previuosly believed.
A cluster of stones on ultrasound will probably look more like a
cluster with not so rounded edges of a moon shaped object. But once
again, a trained eye could reveil that to you.
Good luck. Find that site and you will probably see an almost perfect
example picture of an ultrasound gallstone comparison to yours.
There are several pictures posted there. I found what looks exactly
like mine there.
Barry.
9 daniel_1800 // Apr 5, 2005 at 3:31 pm
Hi Barry
in health,
No, the report definitely didn’t include any specifics. When the surgeon
showed me the films he just referred to an “area” that had the stones, not a
specific point where there was A stone. This leads me to believe that maybe
it was sludge he was seeing and not stones.
As for getting a radiologist to look at it….. I don’t know how things work
where you are, but around here there’s no such thing as just stopping in to
have someone look at the films. There would need to be a medical reason for
it and I currently don’t have one.
I suppose I could take advantage of the next time (if there is one) that I
have a GB attack and go in and have tests done again. But to me that’s close
to insurance fraud and I don’t really want to go there.
I did see that site when you posted it and while I found it interesting, I
didn’t really see anything that looked exactly like my own. Thanks for the
suggestion, though.
I appreciate your response. Well thought out, as usual.
rachel~
In a message dated 4/6/02 9:59:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
barry91162@… writes:
“Live your dreams now. Life is not a dress rehearsal.”
10 daniel_1800 // Apr 5, 2005 at 7:27 pm
In a message dated 4/6/02 11:11:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, nortons@…
writes:
Would you consider finding a new doctor? It’s one thing for a doctor to not
‘believe’ in flushing, but to actually be antagonistic is another matter
entirely. If it’s possible for you to find another medical professional, it
might be conducive to your health and healing to find one that is at least
willing to respect your right to choose what you feel is best for your own
body.
just my ..02 I hope you prove him wrong also!
rachel~
“Live your dreams now. Life is not a dress rehearsal.”
11 Opal Lurline // Apr 7, 2005 at 3:40 am
I live in a very small town, 3 hours from the nearest city. But, I
can probably contact the radiologist and see if he can answer these
questions. THanks for the suggestion. Each ultrasound here is around
$350 so it really adds up. Dawn
12 Opal Lurline // Apr 7, 2005 at 7:37 am
Since he is the only Dr in 45 miles, no. And the Dr.s there are in
huge practices where you never see the same one twice. He loves his
patient though. He has been the town Dr for 50 years. On occasion, we
need a Dr, right now, and he fills that need. We rarely use
allopathic medicine anyway. I am seeing and consulting with a
naturopath in Tucson 3 hours away. I am having a phone consult with
him and will discuss some of these things. If my “in town” Dr knew I
was seeing a Naturopath, he would drop me. So I keep from him what he
does not need to know and wouldn’t approve of anyway. Dawn
But, PS, if I were in a big city, he would probably not be a
consideration for my Dr.
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