Hello,
I’ve been a member of this list a few times and found
it to be very helpful. I’ll try to relate my experience
in as few words as possible.
I’ve been VERY VERY sick with CFS like symptoms,
food allergies, am almost completely bedridden, have
no appetite, have digestive problems, shortness of breath,
chest pains, itching all over, numb legs, etc. I’ve been
sick for five years but bedridden for about one and a half.
I’ve done three flushes in the last two months. They
were all “successful” (as far as number of stones, etc.).
But…. after the first one, I felt GREAT. I had an appetite
again, some energy, slept better. But since then I’ve
gone downhill badly and although the second and third
flushes were just as “successful”, they left me even more
fatigued and didn’t produce the benefits of the first. Can
anyone comment if they’ve had similar experiences? Has
anyone used the flushes to recover from a situation this
“dire”? Since I’m still getting stones, should I continue the flushes
and maybe things will get better?
I’ve been diagnosed (by ultrasound) with gallstones and a
fatty liver. I’ve tried SO many natural things and herbs (I’m
unable to tolerate herbs anymore) but the ONLY thing that has
helped has been the flush (the first one).
I’m really at the end of my rope. I’m so weak I can’t function,
and even though I try to force myself, I’m not eating enough
to stay alive long (that’s not an exaggerration) because of
a TOTAL lack of appetite. The doctors say there is nothing
they can do and have said they can’t believe my liver can
be in that bad a shape “because I’m only 33 and have never
drank alcohol”. They consider my “badly congested liver” as
something that “shouldn’t be giving me too much trouble”.
Yeah right….
Thanks for listening and any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks so much.
Sincerely, Jason
7 responses so far ↓
1 babette400 // Jan 30, 2004 at 9:52 am
< Has
anyone used the flushes to recover from a situation this
“dire”? Since I’m still getting stones, should I continue the flushes
and maybe things will get better?
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Hi,
Well, maybe that’s my problem, fatigue. But I’m going to be trying some
stuff that helps people who have gallbladders have a very good bile flow, it
thins it down like paint thinner. It’s called Beta TCP, I believe. I’ll
have to link you to the one website that I found it at. It’s not that
expensive at all. I think it’s like $13 for 90 tablets. The thing is, a
company called Biotics makes it, but only sells it to health professionals
like doctors, chiropractors, osteopathic doctors, etc.
Thing is about this stuff, you must have a dark colored bowel movement, must
have your gallbladder.
Now, they have a product for those who have no gallbladder called Beta Plus.
If you don’t have a GB, then seriously, you need this products.
This Beta TCP is made out of organic beets, has taurine and something else.
It’s purely healthy and thins that bile down.
Take care,
Susie
2 slater_140 // Feb 3, 2004 at 11:25 pm
In a message dated 8/6/01 3:16:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Jason,
If you think you might be toxed up there may be a way to find out levels of
toxicity of certain substances in your body.
I recently had a test of my hair samples which showed the levels of toxic
substances in my body. It was $70 and not covered by my insurance. But it
was the best $70 I spent on myself because I found out the exact levels of
toxic substances in my body as well as the levels of many good minerals in my
body.
I already posted this info but here it is again. My naturalpathic doctor
gave me the kit to send in. I had to take several hair samples (down to the
root) and mail it in myself to this company. I am not sure if you can get a
kit directly, but you could ask them:
Here is the info from my previous post:
“The Tissue Mineral Analysis - Trace Elements, Inc. 4501 Sunbelt Drive,
Addison, TX 75001 USA. - (I believe they only deal with physicians and do
not work directly with patients) I sent a hair sample (about 100 - 200
hairs) and they gave me the breakout of the nutritional elements as well as
toxic elements in my body. This was the test that identified the problem
with the ratios of calcium to magnesium as well as the absence of toxic
metals in my body. This test was $70 US. I had to pay “out of pocket” for
this test but it was worth the reassurance to know that I do not have to
worry about toxic metals in my body or the effects of such on my nursling!!!
They sent a copy of the results directly to me as well as to my physician.”
Good luck. I hope you can get some better information about what is going
on. Why not try to find a naturalpathic doc for a second opinion if your not
getting anywhere with your primary doc.
Naomi
3 maryellen8 // Feb 8, 2004 at 8:04 am
Jason,
You sound like what happened to me last year!! I also had terrible
experiences with the following flushes. I even tried parisite
cleanses but they tore my digestive system up so bad I could not
stay on them. The Flushes are tough on a weak digestive system
expecially a weakened liver. I became so weak after the last flush
I discontinued them. I lost 40 lbs in a year. People thought I
had cancer or aids!!I finally got help by going to a good gastro who
believes in natural remedies first and surgery and drugs last! She
put me on to a very concentrated high grade probiotics (freindly
bacteria) called Trinity by a company called Natren. I immediately
got my strength back and put about 20 lbs on in 4 months. I still am
having digestive problems but they are not near as severe. You might
want to give them a try!!
I’ve got gallstones too but I have not had any attacks like the
ones people describe on this website. Just bad digestive problems.
They (my previous doctor) wanted to yank my GB just to see if it
would help!! Sorry but I have to have more poof that my problem is my
GB before I let anyone cut. That is why I seeked out and found a good
gastro.
I not trying to put down flushing, but I think that if you are not
well it can really tax your system as it did mine.
Don
4 ying_900 // Mar 11, 2004 at 1:32 am
In a message dated 8/5/01 6:24:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
new_man85@… writes:
You need to be very careful in following advice like this. First of all,
chelation therapy can be very dangerous no matter what they say. I used an
oral chelation preparation containing only 50 mg of EDTA, which really
shouldn’t have done much of anything, and it sent me into a suicidal
depression and really messed up my health. I now have eczema on one foot
which won’t go away no matter what. If you’re real sick and your body is
demineralized, chelation will send you for a tailspin. Go to
www.dmpsbackfire.com and do some reading before you even consider chelation.
And whatever you do, don’t do a DMPS challenge test without reading this
website!
Telling people to remove their mercury fillings is very simplistic. It also
can be a very dangerous thing to do, and I know a multitude of people whose
health was ruined by removing mercury fillings and replacing them with
plastic (composite resin). Most so-called holistic dentists out there don’t
have a clue what they’re doing. You spend thousands of dollars and you’re
much worse off than when you had mercury. I’ve met many victims of “holistic
dentistry.” One who spent $100,000, went from holistic dentist to dentist,
and ended up with a ruined mouth, and was a “dental cripple.” Bankrupt as
well. Plastic fillings ruined my health; I can’t tell you how much I wish
I’d just left the mercury alone. Hulda Clark is totally, utterly wrong on
this issue. Don’t listen to her if you value your life!
Christine J.
5 norbert_1100 // Mar 12, 2004 at 10:14 am
Jason, I hope you feel better soon. Sounds like you are getting a
great deal of sound advice. Like you, doctors told me my liver was
in bad shape and I don’t drink. He told me to make sure not to let
my health insurance laps because there was probably a liver
transplant in my future.
Not willing to accept this, I began looking for alternative ways to
regain my health. Advice given to me by a lady with the same problem
was to make sure you are getting enough water each day. If your body
becomes dehydrated, your kidneys are unable to function properly
causing your liver to work harder. Simple advice, but when I
increased my water intake (I was always dehydrated before this) I
began to see improvement.
Just thought you might want to add this to your list of things to
try. Good luck.
Barbara
6 Neva Marjory // Jan 20, 2006 at 7:02 am
Please help!!!!
I have had very minor gallbladder symptoms for the last 10 years (I’m
24).
I did a liver flush (Hulda Clark method) 3 months ago without any
problems.
I did another liver flush yesterday and now I’m experiencing severe
pain - upper right quadrant, nausea, indigestion, bloating, etc. I
haven’t thrown up yet but I’m close.
What do I do? Has anyone had this happen to them? Should I do
another flush right away to get the stone out, if one got stuck in
the common duct?
Is this an emergency? Does this happen on a regular basis to you
folks - how bad off am I?
If I do need surgery, does anyone know of a specialty institute or
hospital that is an expert in gall bladder treatments?
Also - what alternative therapies work?
WHAT SHOULD I DO? PLEASE HELP!!! : (
Bryan
7 bill_160 // Jan 20, 2006 at 10:20 pm
Have you had any problems with your health since you had your GB removed?
Seems so many people end up regretting it…?
Bryan
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