Hello. I’m new and just read some of the posts. There is one person who is afraid of doing the flush and who wants more than just testimonials about the safety. Well, the reason I joined this group is the very same reason. I was diagnosed in Feb after a severe attack and I was told that my biggest stones were 1 cm and that the duct is only 4 mm. My husband and I have been doing a lot of research on this. So far we haven’t found any stories of people who have ended up in the hospital doing the flush. I’d think such a person would be irate and would set up a website or something to dispute the safety of it. That however, doesn’t prove anything. We did find some medical studies that we have not been able to check out yet. Thought that might be interesting. In the meantime, I am working with an ND who knowing my fear has put me on a slower, more gentle flush. It should take about 6 months he said. I am on a low fat diet and using lecithin, peppermint, fennel and
ginger oil gelcaps and something called cholenest. On my own I am also using other herbs (bitters including milk thistle). I feel impatient though as this diet is making me feel really tired. I keep hoping for real proof that the big flush works because I’d like to get this over with. Hope this is helpful. Christiane Marshall
Fear
November 29th, 2003 · 2 Comments
Tags: health
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1 Larry Gabriele // Nov 29, 2003 at 11:53 am
Christiane;
As far as I know there have been no reports of anyone having “died” because of doing a liver and gallbladder flush. Too bad the medical community can’t say the same regarding the operations they’ve done. That’s the main reason I did it when I was having to deal with the exstreme pain of a gallbladder attack. However, I never got to know just how large my stones were until they came out and I measured them. I’ve posted six of my stones for all to see here at our online site in the Files. A 1 cm stone is like a midget to me compared to some I’ve passed. The 1.7 cm that you see on the Files page isn’t the largest I’d passed.
I don’t know of anyone else to tell you how safe the flush is, but then too, I can’t say the operation to have a gallbladder removed is all that safe either, regardless of what you’re told by doctors. The main reason is because there could be other problems of which the gallbladder’s gallstones are just symptomatic.
All we try to do here is to encourage those who are considering a flush to consider the results we’ve had here. I can’t recall anyone on this list who’s had any real extreme trouble with doing a flush. There are those that have had trouble with getting down the Epsom Salts and then the oil and fruit concoction, but other than that there have only been a couple that feel they may have had a stuck stone, but more oil along with a castor oil pack seems to have done the trick.
Consider my case as an example. I had two gallbladder attacks within three days in February of 1999. With the first one I got an X-ray done but it showed no problems. The next was a CT scan that showed I had a thickened gallbladder and “A” stone, the size of which I could never ascertain. So, I could only assume it was BIG. I then started searching, like yourself, for an answer from off the internet. I found enough information to feel I could do as so many have done before me, without the medical communities assurance it was a safe alternative to surgery. It ain’t going to happen !!! And that’s the simplest of facts.
I’ve been declared free of stones by the medical community that declared me to have “A” stone. In October of 1999, just seven months after my first attack, I had an ultrasound done during another of what I thought was a gallbladder attack, but was actually a liver attack because it was being destroyed because of my avoidance of all fats, including the essential ones to stop having gallbladder attacks.
I learned that there is a strong reason to believe the gallstones don’t start in the gallbladder, but do start in the liver. So, after having read Dr. Cabot’s book “The Liver Cleansing Diet” I started living a lot differently and eating a lot of foods that contain the types of fats the body needs for the liver’s well being. Foods good for the liver’s well being are also good for the whole of the body, and that’s a fact with which even the medical community will agree.
So, you want someone to hold your hand and tell you that it’s perfectly safe to a flush, right? And that there is no possibility of anything going wrong? I don’t think this is even going to happen if you get surgery. In fact !!! I’ll just bet that before you can get surgery you’ll have to sign lots of paper relieving the hospital and the doctor of any liability for leaving and instrument or sponge in your body cavity, which could cause some other serious problems, or for any related infections you may get while in their “care” in the hospital. Just think about that, or better yet, go to the hospital and get copies of the papers you’ll have to sign before they will do invasive surgery on your body. The liver and gallbladder flush is a whole lot less invasive and costs a whole lot less.
If at the least you change your diet by avoiding all coagulate (saturated) fats or hydrogenated (heated) fats you can do your gallbladder a lot of good, and it may in time, without you even realizing it happens, flush stones because of the better diet with more EFAs. The biggest price you’ll pay for this is gaining better over all health.
Dale
Da_Williams@…
2 ying_900 // Dec 1, 2003 at 7:35 am
In a message dated 5/22/01 7:30:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Da_Williams@… writes:
I’ve posted six of my stones for all to see here at our online site in the
Files
Hi,
Can you give me the exact web address of the Files page? I’d love to see all
these photos.
Christine J.
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