I always had a spinal block and there you
can hear what goes one around you. I do
not like to be asleep, or get sick afterwards from the solution the
inject you with. I don’t know if they do this for gallbladder surgery,
but you can ask if there are alternatives.
Rosie
Update
July 27th, 2003 · 19 Comments
Tags: liver cleanse
19 responses so far ↓
1 christine80 // Jul 28, 2003 at 4:01 am
Debra don’t worry, it will be just fine.
We all know of people who had it done, i do. And they all say how much
better they are feeling now. Will keep you in thought and prayers. Take
care
Rose
2 christine80 // Jul 30, 2003 at 3:11 pm
LOL Debra, It is like when you have to have a tooth extracted and you on
your way to the dentist. No more pain. Same with you.
Psychological, i think. Don’t worry, you will be fine. Take care.
Rose
3 Eli Angelic // Jul 31, 2003 at 8:25 am
Dear Debra,
As one mother of 3 to another, (home educating too, right?) … I understand
your resolve completely. I’ll be doing the very same thing if a series of
flushes and this new way of eating don’t help. I really admire you for
having tried the ‘alternative natural’ (there’s an oxymoron!) route first.
It’s been an encouragement to others. (Me!!!)
Please don’t be be discouraged by those who don’t understand, who have NOT
walked a mile in your shoes,
….being a single mother of three dear children, …being a mother …who
will do/sacrifice whatever it takes to be there for her children. Of course
you will do what’s right for *you* and not what was right for other people
on the list!
I’m pulling for you, I’ll be remembering you tomorrow, praying for a safe
procedure, good care, and a speedy recovery. I’ll be excited to hear how
well it all comes out… pun intended…
Go girl!!!
Best wishes,
Jynene
(doing her first flush tonight…)
4 Sheila Camelia // Aug 1, 2003 at 12:41 am
Hi All,
I just finished my 3rd flush. Stones came out but not as much
as the first time. I feel better but I still have pains on my right
shoulder. Side pains come and go. I feel it more when I am walking a
lot. But let me tell you, I feel much better now than 2 months ago
when I didn’t know anything about the cleansing. I felt so helpless
then because the doctor/surgeon just recommended to remove it. They
could not tell me how many stones I have. I had the ultrasound and
the CT Scan. I even had the second opinion. All I got as an answer
was to remove it. So, I tried the cleansing method. It works, but I
don’t know if this is temporary or the pains will be gone permanently.
Does anyone know if the pain will go away after so many flushes? So
far I’ve been doing it every 2 weeks. Any other suggestions to rid
the pains permanently?
Gina
5 Jarrod Michael // Aug 1, 2003 at 8:47 pm
For those who want more information on gallstone lithotripsy, call the 800
number listed on the Medstone website (www.medstone.com) and request a
brochure on gallstone lithotripsy, a brief description of the procedure,
its risks, effectiveness, and contraindications. The number is (800)
600-7111, extension 260. It’s a recording that asks for your name and
address. I requested a brochure about 8 to 10 days ago, and I received it
in the mail today. The mailing also includes a listing of physicians who
have been trained to use Medstone’s equipment to perform gallstone
lithotripsy. The list is current through October, 2000.
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J. Michelle Ryan
jmryan@…
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6 rosella_90 // Aug 3, 2003 at 2:57 am
It might be that the hard calcified type of stone are harder to
flush. But in any case, it takes quite a few flushes to get the
majority of stones out. Digestive enzymes can be useful after a flush
and a two week gap between is wise. Surgeons are always likely to
say ’surgery’ - its their business. Modern medicine is one big profit-
oriented business. Not that ‘modern’ or science is bad - far from
from it - but we are talking ‘business’, not science, not goodwill to
all. The money lies in endless treatment of symptoms rather than
prevention or cure. And the promotion of patented or specialised
procedures when simpler solutions are available. Nutrition is the key
to good health yet doctors dont spend even an hour on the topic at
most medical schools.
K
7 Larry Gabriele // May 18, 2004 at 5:59 pm
Me Too! This is great news!
Thanks for this update.
Dale
8 babette400 // May 19, 2004 at 12:49 am
So he is glad to be able to hold onto
another organ if he can!!
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Dear Rachel,
I’m glad that it’s worked for him. I hope that he can try it again in a few
weeks if he’s up to it. Maybe this will have such a positive effect on him
that it will make him so much better.
Susie
9 Rodolfo Lorenza // Oct 19, 2005 at 12:42 pm
At or about 20:13, 10/01/02 -0400, Arthur Luckower was astute enough to
declare:
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I don’t have any similar experience, but I do have a question.
What did your ultrasound scans show before and after all these
cleanses? Are there any fewer gallstones now than there were before?
Thank you for your response.
10 Neva Marjory // Oct 20, 2005 at 10:05 am
Arthur, most people would probably think this, but you are the only
one that counts. I have wondered about you. I admire your stamina. I
wish I could have kept going. No advice, but pat yourself on the
back. Hope you find the success you are striving for. I think you are
in a class by yourself. Dawn
– even though im sure most people think i’m a nutjob for doing this
many cleanses.
11 Colin Donald // May 9, 2006 at 6:44 pm
thanks frank
i just odered gcg, i’ve never tried it before so it’s worth a shot
for intestinal cleansing i know what i’m doing already
i take bitter herbs from a chinese herbalist which helps somewhat as a tonic and
strengthener
i find the gallstones are the hardest to get out, maybe because there is no bile
in the gallbladder. who knows
maybe i’ll go back to the apple juice and see if that helps. all i know is that
i had no problems getting stones out for over two years and now that i’m
starting to feel healthy it seems more difficult. i also started to saunas and
this has helped my health out alot, however this might be contributing somehow
to not getting stones out during flushes.
12 Neva Marjory // Jan 2, 2007 at 1:39 pm
My husband did his forth flush this weekend. This time he did the
ES. We still aren’t seeing a lot of stones, but we are seeing some.
The good news is he is feeling better, still not well. This tells me
that there is more work to do still. I think the greatest lesson is
patience. As many of you have said, you don’t get here overnight.
It won’t go away overnight. Seems like it’s a process you have to go
through to get well. You have to be patient to let nature work it’s
magic. When you aren’t feeling well, it’s difficult to be patient,
but hopefully in the end, we’ll realize everything we have done is
right. Newbies, I’m not an expert. I do appreciate all the advice I
have been given and look forward to each and every post. You never
know when someone will say “the right thing” that sinks in.
Also, not having been diagnosed with gallstones, but definitely
having symptoms, I decided to flush this weekend too. I was very
surprised at the rock that came out. I look forward to continuing
the process and feeling better down the road. I’m trying to figure
out how to get that ES stuff down. I had a really hard time with
it. Yuck and gag! I’m going to try the magnesium citrate next
time. Thanks to all who have advised and comforted me. I hope to
reciprocate! csc
13 elma_12 // Jan 2, 2007 at 5:35 pm
Hi CSC,
Glad to hear of your progress, and I too flushed this weekend
and for the first time used the Magesium Citrate….. bought it
at Walmart for $1.14 and it tasted great compared to the Epsom
salt in water.
I highly recommend it!
Happy flushings,
Dee
14 Neva Marjory // Feb 18, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Folks,
Thanks for all your help and answers.
Since I posted my distress call, My pain/nausea/symptoms have become
more mild, although still present. I had bloodwork done which was
all normal.
At this point I would like to try to avoid doctors and get rid of my
gallstone/pancreas symptoms on my own. I have a few questions:
1. Has anyone with gallstone problems experienced pain in upper LEFT
quadrant and upper right quadrant?
2. Before I do a full-on flush I would like to use herbs and other
modalities to help support the gallbladder and possibly
soften/release the stones. Can anyone recommend herbs for this,
where to get them, and also - can these herbs themself help eliminate
the pain and gallstones, or is the flush necessary as well?
Thanks,
Bryan
15 Lacy Augustine // Feb 20, 2007 at 4:34 am
Hi Bryan
In answer to your question
Has anyone ever had upper Left quadrant and right
side pain–YES –I have also…..
Sometimes it is intermittent- sometimes both sides
and sometimes just one of the sides.
I went to a Dr. of OM (Oriental Medicine) and he
said that the gallbladder meridian runs on both the
left side of the body and the right side of the body
and that this was the reason for the left sided pain.
Ofcourse I am sure there are other reasons also but
I was worried about other organs being involved and
he didnt seem to think there was a problem.
I have a new appt with another OM dr(closer
to my house) and I will let you know any info I find out.
iF YOU are looking for a dr. of OM to visit yourself and do not have
any references–Check and see if there is an OM school in your area..
They always have excellent drs on staff and you could call
the school and get an appt.
Lori
16 Bernie Magaly // Aug 15, 2007 at 4:53 am
Please encourage her to do everything she can to avoid back surgery. A friend
of mine had back surgery and it has ruined the rest of her life and the doctors
say there is nothing they can do about it now. She is in constant, horrible
pain. Much worse than before the surgery.
Amber
If she has to have surgery, which is the last thing
left now to do, the outcome of it is not expected to really do her any good at
all.
.
17 Bernie Magaly // Aug 15, 2007 at 8:50 am
You are so right. Would gentle massage help her at all?
Amber
Oh, don’t worry, Amber. That’s one thing that we don’t want or she doesn’t
want. I know people who haven’t been helped from it at all. I sure hope
this stuff works for her. She’s in so much pain, but I think it would be worse
having surgery and no telling what would happen.
Susie
18 Bernie Magaly // Aug 15, 2007 at 12:46 pm
I have a traction device that fits over the top of an interior door frame. I
hang a 5 pounds weight from it, use a neck harness and put very mild traction on
my neck. My neck has been broken. It helps. Perhaps she can find someone to
assist her in finding the proper type of traction for her. My advice came from
two chiropractors who agreed!
Amber
I would think so. I have told her to ask her doctors this too, there’s some
kind of traction that is supposed to be very helpful. Susie
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19 Bernie Magaly // Aug 15, 2007 at 4:43 pm
Some gentle form of traction that she can do at home, a one time purchase,
might help.
Amber
Amber,
I just thought of it. It’s spinal decompression. It’s supposed to be very
helpful, but my daughter says that her insurance probably won’t pay if they
do have it there. She has the military insurance.
Susie
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