michael What is the name of this book that you mentioned. On how to
alkalyze the blood.And do you know where I may find it.I still plan on
flushing.But this sounds like it might help keep the body chemistry in
better balance. thanks ken
Flush or fiction?
May 26th, 2003 · 14 Comments
Tags: gallstones
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1 Morris Linnea // May 27, 2003 at 3:39 pm
Hi Ken,
The name of the book I have is: Cooking for Healthy Healing, by
Linda Rector Page.
I couldn’t find it on Amazon.com, but I did on Barnes and Nobles.com.
This book may not even be the *best* one out there. It’s just the
one I bought because it caught my eye. A search on “nutritional
healing” reveals scores of such books.
All I can say is that today I feel even better than yesterday.
The funny thing is that about 8 years ago, I became so tired that
my doctor clinically diagnosed me as having Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
Then, about two years ago, I started having generalized, radiating
pain througout my abdominal region. I can tell you that over the
past 10 years or so, I’ve tried herbs, homeopathy, acupuncture,
allopathic medicine, electrodermal screening, checked myself into
the hospital, have been tested again and again, have been the target
of well-meaning friends all urging me to try various concoctions
designed to get rid of what they believed was the problem — which I
usually tried. Believe me, I know what extreme fatigue and pain can
drive someone to try. My experience has also hightened my skepticism.
I’ve come to understand that most doctors either want to subject you
to a series of high-cost, painfully invasive tests, which usually
reveal nothing. Or they want to try to mask the symptoms with a pill
rather than locate the real problem. I’ve also learned that most
off-the-shelf herbs do better as preventatives rather than cures. To
deal with more chronic problems really requires the assistance of a
qualified naturopath, if going this route is your choice.
Since I’ve moved away from the “Ebstein-Barr virus” or some other
virus theories (which I now believe is a bunch of balony) towards the
possibility that my liver and/or gall bladder is clogged and not
detoxing the body properly, all of the sudden my sleep is more
refreshing, pain is subsiding, energy increasing, and head clearing.
Don’t know if this will last, but thinking I may be onto something
here.
Just wanted to mention my situation in case you know of anyone else
suffering similarly. I’ve been reading a lot lately about the liver’s
role in detoxing the system. Supposedly, if there’s not enough
alkaline in the blood, the liver will only detox a certain amount,
then shut off and dump the toxins into the bloodstream to protect
itself. Other systems then try to deal with the toxins, but they too
have thresholds when they shut off. It’s these extra toxins in the
system, especially the liver, where stone formation may actually find
its breeding ground. At least, that’s my current understanding.
Introducing alkaline into the bloodstream feeds the liver with what
it needs to deal with ALL the toxins. This may explain why I’m
feeling better — my liver is being helped to deal with the toxins
better and also, hopefully, any stones, if given enough time to
correct the problem.
Anyway, enough babbling. Hope something I mentioned above also helps
someone else.
2 Morris Linnea // May 27, 2003 at 11:33 pm
— In gallstones@egroups.com, “Dale Williams” <Da_Williams@e…
work your body to an alkaline state.
Hi Dale,
Here’s what I’m doing right now, mostly because this is what I
have around the house that was on the list:
-lemon juice when I get up
-unsweetened apple juice with my breakfast and supper
-apple cider vinegar right before bed
-chamomile tea three times a day in between
-no red meats, dairy products, or sugar
On the list that I remember are:
-potassium rich vegetable juices, such as carrot or beet juice
-chamomile tea
-unsweetened apple juice
-unsweetened grapefruit juice
-apple cider vinegar
-lemon juice
-black cherry juice (purported to be extremely successful for gall
bladder problems — was widely prescribed by doctors in the 1920s.
-unsweetened cranberry juice
-peppermint tea
3 Morris Linnea // May 28, 2003 at 3:29 am
— In gallstones@egroups.com, “Dale Williams” <Da_Williams@e…
Hey, I’ll have to try that. Even if it doesn’t provide any health
benefits, at least you just won’t care anymore.
4 Morris Linnea // May 28, 2003 at 7:26 am
— In gallstones@egroups.com, “Dale Williams” <Da_Williams@e…
Oh, I forgot to mention. For some reason it seems like the apple
juice and chamomile tea are the most beneficial for me.
5 Morris Linnea // May 28, 2003 at 7:16 pm
Hi Morgan,
Yes, the recent article you refer to posted on this site by Dr.
Robbins certainly did provide me with much connective information.
I couldn’t even remember exactly where I read that until you
mentioned it, then I went back and found it and read it again.
Not sure who Dr. Robbins is, but hey… Thanks!!
Actually, the first time I read it, I just skimmed over it with
little interest, not making any connections to my problem with
fatigue — I’ve read so many theories over the years I’m afraid I’ve
grown rather callous towards most things I read. At home, I was
reading the book I mentioned, and noticed that the specific food or
drink mattered little as long as it was alkalyzing the blood. After
introducing alkaline drinks into my system aimed at trying to deal
with the radiating abdominal pain, I find myself waking up refreshed
and invigorated like never before. Today, I feel even better than
yesterday.
Gaining such startling relief from my fatigue by simply drinking
alkaline beverages, along with at least temporary relief from
abdominal pain, is what validated what Dr. Robbins was saying in
his article. It was then that I actually went back and read those
portions of his article with greater interest.
Another connective source was Dr. Hulda Clark’s site. At the
beginning of her article on liver flushing, she mentions the
possibility that stones form as a result of the body’s natural
defense system to rid parasites, viruses, bacteria, and other toxins
from the body by encapsulating them. Since Dr. Robbins article
mentions that alkaline aids the liver in successfully dealing with
toxins, it seems reasonable to believe that helping the liver keep
toxins under control reduces the risk of stone formation.
As far as my current understanding about Epstein-Barr’s role in
chronic fatigue syndrome, this I got from an article some years ago
published on the Centers of Disease Control’s web site. It seems
that Epstein-Barr is carried by most people in the world, whether
they have Chronic Fatigue or not, and so has been discounted as a
qualifying factor in diagnosing CFS.
One interesting side note. Over the years I’ve had opportunity to
interview many other people who suffer from CFS and Fibromyalgia
(CFS with joint pain). Almost everyone I’ve talked to can trace the
beginning of their fatigue back to a bout in the hospital for some
type of procedure that involved surgery, including me. For years I’ve
wondered if we all didn’t pick up some type of unknown virus through
our wounds, and so pummeled my body with just about every
anti-viral herb I could find, to no avail. Now I’m wondering if the
shock of surgery overloaded our livers and other detox organs and
began the downward cycle.
Doctors are only recently discovering that they have to help patients
reintroduce good bacteria into their systems following the prolonged
use of antibiotics, otherwise they’ll feel like crap. I’m now
wondering about the need to reintroduce alkaline into the body to
help the liver deal with the shock of trying to recover the body
after surgery. Food for thought.
6 Morris Linnea // May 29, 2003 at 3:09 am
Hi Isis,
Here’s what I’m doing:
-lemon juice when I get up
-unsweetened apple juice with my breakfast and supper
-apple cider vinegar right before bed
-chamomile tea three times a day in between
-no red meats, dairy products, or sugar
Others on the list that I remember are:
-potassium rich vegetable juices, such as carrot or beet juice
-chamomile tea
-unsweetened apple juice
-unsweetened grapefruit juice
-apple cider vinegar
-lemon juice
-black cherry juice (purported to be extremely successful for gall
bladder problems — was widely prescribed by doctors in the 1920s.
-unsweetened cranberry juice
-peppermint tea
The apple juice and chamomile tea seem to work best for me.
7 Lesa Evon // May 29, 2003 at 4:28 am
Michael,
Hope you have fun with my remarks, below.
8 tad_40 // May 29, 2003 at 8:18 am
Michael. I know what you mean about low energy. I feel dragged out
alot.It seems no matter how much sleep I get I Feel tired.Recently I
have been drinking fresh squeezed lemon juice in a glass of water twice
a day.Trying to avoid sugar as much as possible,hoping this well help
with my energy level.Thanks for the information about the book. ken
9 Morris Linnea // May 29, 2003 at 6:56 pm
Morgan,
Thanks for all the great information. Too much to digest in one
sitting. I will print and use it to “ionize” my brain.
10 Morris Linnea // May 30, 2003 at 2:49 am
Ken,
That’s exactly how I’ve felt for the past 10 years. I seem to be
waking up more refreshed the past few days since introducing alkaline
drinks. We’ll see if it’s just a temporary reaction to something new.
That happens a lot.
11 cole_160 // May 30, 2003 at 8:33 am
My father has suffered from low energy for many years. It is quite
possibly a liver function issue, but he has tried all the flushes,
diets, etc.
Dingy fever, hepatitis and gallbladder removed are probbaly the main
culprits… BUT…
He recently tested very low for testosterone… the meds seem to
help a bit…
I would suspect low energy more as an adrenale problem… ken
12 Morris Linnea // May 30, 2003 at 6:36 pm
Hi Ken,
It’s interesting you mentioned that. That’s the first place the
herbalists steered me too. I’ve tried all manner of junk designed to
support the adrenals; only had very limited benefits.
As you indicated in your father’s case though, fatigue can be
caused by a number of things. It’s quite possible for the same
set of symptoms to be generated by any number of underlying causes.
One is always wise to get a complete health screen to eliminate
any of the extreme possibilities, such as cancer or lupus — I did.
Has your father ever been to a naturopath and undergone electrodermal
screening?
13 danuta100 // Jun 3, 2003 at 8:56 pm
What are some examples of alkaline drinks you mention that helped you feel
refreshed and invigorated….? thanks, Pat
14 stout7 // Jun 4, 2003 at 1:18 am
Check out message 2105.
Jerome
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